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12 March 2006 @ 12:25 pm
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The Basics -

1. Name: Whitney

2. Age: 20

3. Gender (answer however the hell you want): Female.


The Books -

4. Who is your favorite character in the Terre D’Ange trilogy? Hyacinthe. In Kushiel's Dart, I remember having a very love-hate(leaning towards hate) with Joscelin, and wanting Phedre to end up with Hyacinthe. He's charming, intelligent, takes care of the people he cares for most, is beholden to no-one, has the ability to see the past and the future even though he's not supposed to. I found him multi-faceted and it's no wonder that Phedre went so far and sacrificed so much just to free him.

5. Who is your least favorite character in the trilogy? Hmm, Joscelin sometimes annoys me but I can't say he's my least favorite because he redeems himself far too often. Probably Melisande, because it's awful to feel so attached and drawn to someone who hurts you over and over again for their own selfish, capricious reasons. I find it odd that so many people love her character actually. I even like the Mahrkagir(sp?) better.

6. Which character do you identify most with? Phedre. I know that it's kind of the point to identify with the main character, but that's really the person I identify most with.

7. Which of the books is your favorite? Kushiel's Dart. I read it in one night. I love Alcuin, Delaunay and Hyacinthe. And really I like exploring the world of the Night Court and what it's like to be a courtesan in Terre D'Ange.


8. If you could visit any of the countries as they are described in the books, which
would you visit?
Terre D'Ange obviously. I would love to experience the beauty of such a place, but then I would also like to visit La Serenissima for its mad revelry and to see the temple of Asherat. And perhaps the universities of Caerdicca Unitas. I'm glad that JC is going to be exploring the latter more in Imriel's books.

9. If you were not an adept, what role/job do you think you’d have in the Terre D’Ange universe? Priestess of Naamah perhaps. I'm attracted to the spiritual side of life as well as the sexual. And I like the concept that Naamah can encompass all the different canons that the Night Court is divided on.. So if I couldn't be a courtesan, I'd like to be a priestess of Naamah. If they had a priestess for Shemhazai I might consider that.


Personality -

10. What do you think are one or two of your best personality traits? When I open up, I can be very charming. This encompasses alot of other traits like being witty, humorous, friendly, etc. so it's the best one I can think of.

11. What do you think is your worst personality trait? I'm manipulative and indecisive.

12. What qualities do you value in a friend? Intelligence, sense of humor. I really really hate when people talk badly about their friends behind their back, so they have to be upfront and honest. Also, I value friends who have a wide range of interests, especially those we hold in common at least somewhat. I also love to have long conversations, so they have to be able to do that.

13. What is the worst quality you believe a person can possess? A lack of empathy. Or being boring: having no interests or passions, not valuing knowledge.

14. Go to this site and take the quiz. What character did you get? Do you think this is a good fit?
HASH(0x8c4c2ec)
You are Phedre. You are drop-dead gorgeous, kinky,

perceptive and troubled. Your strong, fiery

spiritual desires sometimes upset your

cunning chessmaster's mind, sweeping you away

in a haze of passion- but even the gods

tremble when they fear that they have

betrayed your trust.


Kushiel's Quiz
brought to you by Quizilla Goodness. My immediate thought when I got this: great, now everyone's going to think I cheated. I actually was surprised when I got Phedre. I mean I think her attraction to the spiritual and the higher learning as well as the pull of her masochistic/submissive nature is rather correct. I also do feel conflicted about my nature often.


15. Go to this site and take the quiz. What house did you get? Do you think this is a good fit?
eglantine
You belong in House Eglantine. You're an artist at

heart and enjoy all that is original. You

create beauty. Your motto is "To create

is to live."


Where in the Night Court do you belong?
brought to you by Quizilla
I think it's a good fit, yet.. in certain questions I would've answered more of a Valerian way of looking at things, but I could't submit to just anyone because they paid me or just because the need is in me. So yes, Eglantine fits my creative side. I'm a writer, a poet, I love to design costumes and I am a vast repository of knowledge.

16. Describe your perfect date. I'd love to go out to dinner at a place with really good food, then perhaps go to a museum, the theatre, or the movies. After that, we could go for coffee and have a really interesting and long conversation covering a variety of topics.


Sex -

17. What qualities do you value in a lover? Sexually? Dominance, taking the initiative, empathy, creativity, being lovingly sadistic and open-minded about sharing. ;) Outside of that, see the qualities I value in a friend.

18. Describe your sexual style. I tend to get lost in the moment and dislike having it interrupted. If I'm feeling uninhibited I show depths of my personality that I don't show anywhere else. I also laugh and talk and make other various interesting but less coherent noises. I'm surprised I haven't gotten a noise complaint from the landlord. ;)

19. What are your feelings about BDSM (bondage, discipline, domination, submission, sadism, and masochism)? I'm submissive and a masochist. I've only had a small bit of experience with it but I definitely want more, and I don't think I'd consider dating someone longterm who couldn't provide a good measure of dominance and pain.

20. In which three houses do you think you’d best fit? Eglantine, Gentian, or Valerian. The three moments I feel most alive and happy: creating, speaking or thinking about spiritual concepts, and exploring my submission.

21. In which two houses do you think you would not fit? Heliotrope or Camellia. I don't feel very perfect at all. Life is about self-improvement after all. And Heliotrope.. I think I am fundamentally unsuited to be completely devoted mind, body, and soul to one person.

22. Which house would you patronize, given a choice? Mandrake for private assignations, but if I need a dress or want a party held I'm going to Eglantine.

23. What character from the books would you want to date/screw silly/have screw you silly and why? Hyacinthe.

24. Describe yourself physically (hair color, eye color, height, any distinguishing characteristics). Feel free to include one safe for work picture. It can be provocative, but no nudity. I have light brown hair with red and blonde tints to it depending on various factors. My eyes are blue-gray and everyone tells me they're beautiful. I'm 5'2", so I'm pretty short. I've also got some nice curves to me: 36C-27-37 last time I checked.


Now if only there was a marque up my back. ;)

25. Tell us anything else you think might be important.
There are many different kinds and degrees of and reasons for love. For people who can't understand or respect that, the words "Love as thou wilt" mean nothing.
 
 
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Minister of Propaganda for the Decepticon Empirefierceawakening on March 12th, 2006 07:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Valerian
I mean, how do you belong to a house whose canon is masochism, and be one of its higher ups.. and NOT be canon?

I dunno, especially given the lesson of the candies. If that's done with 6 year olds, you'd think -- !

Perhaps it reflects JC's prejudice that most people aren't masochists, they're just submitting to it and getting off on the submission, not the actual pain.

Yeah, and it really depends where you go if things look that way or not. I've run into some very SM oriented groups where most people have no clue what submission is and I've been around people who think I'm incomprehensible because I'm 85% sadist, 2% masochist, and 13% domme. :)
Briseisxbriseisx on March 12th, 2006 08:28 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure this makes sense.
When I was in my bio-ethics class, we learned about the nature of pain and how the pain is not actually in the part of the body that you feel the pain at. It's your brain basically being a CD player and playing a track called "foot being smashed pain" or something like that. Which is why people get phantom limb pain and chronic pain and some people are more sensitive than others. Because what pushes the button differs and it can get stuck on repeat or what have you.

This made me think someone should do some studies on the neurological differences between masochists and non-masochists. Because obviously, they're processing of certain kinds of pain is processed differently and linked to sexual response.

That's why I think being submissive is a personality trait while being a masochist has to do with wiring (so to speak). They often go together.

Also, how can mandrake and valerian be supported financially if they didn't have a good amount of sadistic or masochistic customers who weren't a part of the Night Court? You can't tell me the customers who patronize Valerian are ALL Kusheline. The House didn't seem extensive enough for that. And where do Mandrake's customers come from hmm?
Minister of Propaganda for the Decepticon Empirefierceawakening on March 12th, 2006 08:42 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
That's why I think being submissive is a personality trait while being a masochist has to do with wiring (so to speak). They often go together.

Right. And then there's folks like me who like some pain quite a lot but who will become instantly unable to eroticize it at all if the person giving it to them puts on dominant airs. If someone I like wants to hurt me, go ahead. If said person wants to call me "their girl" or see me act deferential, they should keep it to themselves, as I'll feel not at all like having sex with them and completely like laughing in their faces ;)
Minister of Propaganda for the Decepticon Empirefierceawakening on March 12th, 2006 08:46 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
In fact I thnk I'd switch MUCH more often if more people understood that I like pain and not dominance games from the bottom side... It's just that the vast majority of the tops I know expect to be getting their way somehow, or expect me to be going into a surrendering kind of headspace at least, and... I don't. I'm very picky about how I like to be hurt.
Bulletbulletslc on March 13th, 2006 06:36 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
Oooo, now I REALLY want to play with you! I'm a sadistic submissive!!!LOL!

Briseisxbriseisx on March 12th, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
LOL. Very funny.

I think it's the same as me being very assertive when someone tries to dominate me whom I don't respect. That's part of why I had issues with the Valerian answers on that quiz. I do not submit to just anyone. But honestly, I can't think of any of the patrons talked about in the books whom I might object to besides Melisande..
Minister of Propaganda for the Decepticon Empirefierceawakening on March 12th, 2006 09:03 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
I've got a friend who is just about the closest thing the real world has to an anguisette in terms of eroticizing pain -- the more someone hurts her the more she has orgasm after orgasm. But she's not a sub at all -- it's purely that she gets off on pain, the more intense the better. For a while, she was playing with a fellow who was a sado-dom, and he would try to interject little aspects of dominance into it because that's something he really enjoyed. But it was funny to watch, because my friend would be this quivering mass of orgasming happyjoy from pain and then he'd go "good girl!" or something similarly Daddydom-ish and she'd start laughing, or raising an eyebrow. If she wasn't too far gone to even notice he'd said it, that is. :) But yeah, we got into some very funny conversations about him always putting those bits in and her not being interested in them at all. :)
mysticrose29mysticrose29 on March 13th, 2006 11:43 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
The funny thing about this is, I'm the opposite... I'm more submissive than masochistic (although I am both), and if he's not putting on those dom airs, I have a harder time enjoying myself. lol
Minister of Propaganda for the Decepticon Empire: mandrakefierceawakening on March 13th, 2006 11:50 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
To each their own. :) Funnily, for me... even imagining doing the "girl" stuff from a dominant perspective usually strikes me as laughable. Yet I 1) am bi and 2) have no qualms about calling guy/butch bottoms or subs "boy" or "boi". I dunno why exactly.

I guess because calling someone "boy" seems like a term of endearment, where "girl" for me is wrapped in ageplay-y overtones, and I don't like that much. I'm not against it, it's just weird to me. I see submission ideally as something strong and proud people do, and I see childlike people as... well, not as not strong, but I guess I see the average ageplayed child as very naive. I don't really want a naive person as a sex partner, just one who is very open and goes under easily :)
mysticrose29mysticrose29 on March 14th, 2006 12:01 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
haha- very interesting perspective!

I don't have a problem being called "girl," if it's used in a scene & does something particular for him.. I prefer it to more derogatory names, for sure (although I've tolerated them as well).

It's interesting you say that "I see submission ideally as something strong and proud people do" .. I'm certainly neither of those! In fact, I tend to despise people who are like that! lol.
Furthermore, I'm not "naieve," either, although I can certainly be "childlike," and have even used this air of "innocence" as a means of seduction. I guess it's something that works well for me in particular in combination with my submissiveness... maybe I'm just an odd one though (well, I knew that already!) ;)
Minister of Propaganda for the Decepticon Empirefierceawakening on March 14th, 2006 12:22 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
It's interesting you say that "I see submission ideally as something strong and proud people do" .. I'm certainly neither of those! In fact, I tend to despise people who are like that! lol.

Despise them? Why? I guess for me the ideal submissive is someone who is... quiet, but elegant. Someone who submits because they like to, because something about doing it completes them... not someone who's really looking for outside control of their life. That's really why I don't call myself a dominant; I think of myself as a dominant PERSON, and I definitely enjoy erotic control and also have a strong will in other ways too, but there are too many people out there who seem to be looking for someone to obey because they want to trust someone to run their lives. I don't feel comfortable being a part of that, and it's part of why making rules or punishments make me very uneasy. It's a shame, but I've started to associate "dominant" the nouned adjective with that sort of thing, so I feel weird when people call me one.

I think I'm a pretty knowledgeable person who can help people with certain facets of self-discovery and I'll take on a mantle of power to do that, quite happily. It's also really, really, amazingly hot. :) But people who want their lives run by their dominants -- and that's often what I hear about when people talk about d/s relationships, rather than sex -- puzzle me. I've tried that and it just doesn't work for me. I like strong people; I just think there are different ways to be strong.

mysticrose29mysticrose29 on March 14th, 2006 12:42 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
Well, perhaps "despise" is too harsh of a word.. I think for me, "strong & proud" carries with it the idea of arrogant and forceful- the first of which is a quality I do despise, and the second seems to go against the submissive nature.

" Someone who submits because they like to, because something about doing it completes them "

This is certainly how I feel about it, too... but I don't think it's synonymous with the terms you used... then again, I suppose there are many different "personalities" of a submissive.

I don't like the idea of someone running my life, either, and there has to be a sense of mutual desire and understanding in the interaction for it to be 100% meaningful.. Nonetheless, absolute erotic control is still very attractive.

It is a shame your view of the term "dominant" has been colored by those associations.. I think you're right that many misconstrue the purpose of that type of relationship... I choose to give myself ot someone, I just prefer not to think of it that way.

You're right, though.. the idea of wanting someone to run your entire life is scary, and some people do take things a bit far IMO...

I guess the term "strong" is too dominant a term for me. lol.. I know what you mean in that there are many ways to be strong, but I prefer to say that I'm "able" or "resilient" rather than "strong," per se.. :P
Briseisxbriseisx on March 14th, 2006 01:05 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
because they want to trust someone to run their lives.

I personally am someone who likes having a Dom so I can feel like someone has control without them actually running my life for me. Then I feel secure enough to do what needs to be done in life without much prodding and with no commands.. if that makes sense.
mysticrose29mysticrose29 on March 14th, 2006 01:31 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
that makes sense to me..
I'm similar, although I wouldn't say I use it to "feel secure enough" later... but more just for the feeling.
Teh _calibur_ on March 10th, 2007 12:10 am (UTC)
Re: I'm not sure this makes sense.
"That's why I think being submissive is a personality trait while being a masochist has to do with wiring (so to speak). They often go together."

There's actually a medical condition in which people are aroused by physical pain. There's a more in-depth discussion about it in the community Kushiel_trilogy.